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Knowledge and practices in dialogue: RWM’s 2024 in 10 podcasts

Like every December, the RWM Working Group and its extended family have compiled the now traditional selection of their favourite podcasts produced over the last twelve months.

An end-of-year jigsaw puzzle assembled from conversations around terminal tourism, parenting, coloniality, institutional critique, indigenous thought and anti-ablism, to name just a few of the many points of reference.

#1. Yaiza Hernández Velázquez

«Territories that survive under tourism as a rule are treated almost as a monoculture. If tourism goes, everything goes, there’s no economy.»

In this podcast, we sit down with transdisciplinary researcher and curator Yaiza Hernández to get to the heart of her deep-dive research into what she has coined Terminal Tourism. Drawing upon the long tradition of academic scholarship, but also from a situated perspective as a native from the Canary Islands, Yaiza unpacks the constellation of problems orbiting the travel industry, from environmental degradation to rampant gentrification and the subsequent disruption of local infrastructures, and a whole host of other socioeconomic inequalities.

#terminaltourism #climatechange #touristification #infraestructures #decolonialism #coloniality
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#2. Françoise Vergès

«If the vital needs: water, air, food, housing, were considered really as political questions, there would be a revolution.»

In this podcast, political scientist, historian, curator and activist Françoise Vergès unpacks the social and environmental politics of cleaning and waste, charting and questioning temporal and spatial interactions that create a neutral site of deprivation, exhaustion and exploitation. She sheds light on the economy and politics of exhaustion, pointing out the role of racial capitalism in the climate crisis. Vergès suggests a political re-reading and understanding of vital needs and natural elements through notions of cleaning, hygiene and medicine, and raises revolutionary questions about the prefabricated assumptions of justice and social transformation through re-thinking the museum.

#workingconditions #anti-racism #coloniality #decolonialism #waste
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#3. Objecthood #9

«We need to find out how to live in this kind of very uncertain and unsettled future that’s coming our way.» (Nishat Awan)

OBJECTHOOD #9 keeps asking questions about the limits and borders of stuff all around us – from countries to nuclear sites. We talk to Kyveli Mavrokordopoulou about her work on exclusion zones and radioactive waste management, focusing on temporal and spatial thresholds. Our second guest, researcher and activist Nishat Awan, talks about unsettlement and geopolitical borders, especially in relation to Pakistan and her field work in Balochistan. Get ready for a deep dive into the oddness of boundaries, including political demarcations, the interplay between insects and radiation leaks, forced displacements, and gigantic triangles, to name but a few. Curated by Roc Jiménez de Cisneros.

#toxicity #borders #migration #waste #uranium #coloniality #climatechange
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#4. Imani Mason Jordan

«The powers over us do everything they can to numb us from our emotions, from what we know in an embodied way. And separate and sever us from that knowledge. But as an artist, as a writer, as somebody who is invested politically in freedom, in liberation, in interrupting harm and dismantling these extremely violent structures, I am in a practice all the time of trying to feel and trying to use that emotional knowledge in order to act.»

In this podcast Imani Mason Jordan reflects on the conflicting meanings of community, which they sum up as “ a feeling and a relationship”. Finding guidance in the writings of Audre Lorde (and others) —through collective reading and listening—, Imani makes an urgent call for action, in order to disrupt and overcome the numbing of our emotions. Cadence, resonance, repetition and the bodily urgency of protest speeches operate in their artistic vocabulary as key tools for world-breaking, as well as world-making.

#abolitionism #anti-racism #writing #poetry #coloniality #blackqueer #activism
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#5. M Muphy

«You might think the regulations are there to curb pollution, but the regulations are there to permit the pollution, or permit the extraction, facilitate it or even subsidize the extraction, and if we look at that from an anticolonial, or Indigenous environmental justice understanding, we understand that permission to pollute and that permission to take is also permission to kill. It’s a permission to Indigenous elimination and land theft, and it’s also permission to kill slowly.»

Murphy works with and against technoscience in the areas of environmental justice and data politics, colonialism, sexuality, reproduction and race. Their approach is interdisciplinary not only in the sense of involving various areas of knowledge, but also in enacting their dual responsibility: the almost impossible task of dismantling extractive racial capitalism, by means of re-imagining radical Black, queer, Indigenous and feminist decolonial horizons and worlds of care. Their work asks questions about how to open up to being guided by indigenous jurisdiction, and how to find different ways of being together. In this podcast, M. Murphy walks us through permission-to-pollute infrastructures in and around Chemical Valley in the Great Lakes area, the largest basin of fresh surface water on the planet.

#activism #coloniality #indigenousstuggles #extractivism #indigenousthinking #epistemicide
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#6. Liisa-Rávná Finbog

«I’m not saying that you are a coloniser and that you’re sitting in there and you’re committing wrong. What I’m saying is that colonial structures are still in effect. So if you benefit from colonial structures, you’re doing that on account of someone else’s detriment.»

In this podcast, we talk with Liisa-Rávná Finbog about napkins, museums, collections, and colonialism, to challenge hierarchies, cultural extractivism, and the hidden violence in any process of cultural assimilation. We also highlight the causal relationship between art and coloniality, questioning the separation between function and aesthetics. Duodji thus emerges as an ancestral practice and knowledge system — that dismantles and emancipates itself from the Western construct of craft, while invoking a dialogical relationship with materiality. We open a portal to understand and share the ways of thinking, being, and existing in interdependence, of the Sámi people.

#activism #coloniality #indigenousstuggles #extractivism #indigenousthinking #epistemicide
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#7. Open-weather

«In contrast to lots of projects that are interested in climate change and weather, and lots of techno-utopian projects that purport to solve problems or create solutions that will last forever, we’re really about endings actually. We are thinking about the end of this world. We are thinking about what might need to end, what endings do we need, not of course forgetting the many world endings that have already been forced to happen and have brought us to this point in planetary history.»

In this two-voice podcast, researcher-designer Sophie Dyer and creative geographer Sasha Engelmann weave speculative storytelling through glitchy weather satellite transmissions in a dialogue tinged with the feminist meta-practices that run deep beneath their collective operations. Together, they talk about NOAA satellites, about building alliances and about weather literacy, occasionally interviewing each other as friends and guiding us through the generous network of feminist thinkers that informs their practice.

#climatechange #satellites #diwo #feminism
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#8. Lara and Stephen Sheehi

«If you’re always already guilty, by virtue of the place that you hold in the colonial system, then the beginnings of your identification process are always one that is trying to prove that you are not guilty from the get-go, and so that also creates an entire system of superiority and inferiority.» 

In this podcast, Lebanese writers, researchers, and activists Lara and Stephen Sheehi walk us through the day-to-day reality of psychoanalysis under occupation, Zionist psy-ops and (anti)oppressive praxis. They talk about psychological warfare and about Sumud—or the reverie of resistance—, and discuss the worldliness of our subjectivities in a world that is not the same for everyone.

#activism #coloniality #psy-ops #Gaza #Palestine
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#9. Laura Tripaldi

«Rocks may appear to be hard, but then if you look at them in a geologic time scale, you see that they are actually very soft, and they change, and they grow, and they form in different patterns, or they break down into sand over time. So I think that there is no hard material in the universe, actually. Everything is, in a way, soft.»

Writer and independent researcher Laura Tripaldi started her career in materials science and nanotechnology. But instead of approaching chemistry through the lens of the microscope, she decided to zoom out to a speculative point of view at the intersection of science, technology, art, and philosophy. In her work, Tripaldi uses the nano scale to challenge preconceived ideas about identity, artificiality, neutrality and reality itself, exploring how technologies construct and transform our bodies, minds, and societies. We talk to Laura Tripaldi about surfaces, interfaces, the intelligence of materials, spider silk, softness, colloids, rocks and technologies of gender.

#nanoscale #rocks #sipersilk #softness #colloids
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#10. Hamja Ahsan

«Fried chicken is in some ways an attitude. You can have fried chicken without any fried chicken. It’s a way of being with other people. A way of relating to the world.»

Hamja Ahsan is a British artist, writer, curator and fanzine enthusiast. He is known for his raw critique of dominant culture and power structures, particularly in the context of cultural representation and identity. In this podcast, we talk Hamja Ahsan about the language of Shy Radicals, about neurodiversity and Islamophobia, and about the fictional utopian shy people’s Republic of Aspergistan. But also about fried chicken. Yes, mostly about fried chicken, really.

#neurodiversity #anticapacitism #friedchicken #islamophobia
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*List compiled by the RWM Working Group and its extended family, among whom are included Loli Acebal, María Berríos, Valeria Brugnoli, Javiera Luisina Cádiz Bedini, André Chêdas, Antonio Gagliano, Paloma Gueilburt, Yaiza Hernández Velázquez, Roc Jiménez de Cisneros, Sònia Monegal, B.J. Nilsen, Nuria Rodríguez Riestra, Violeta Ospina Domínguez, pantea, Ricardo Pérez-Hita, Anna Ramos, Gemma Planell, Tiago Pina, Jara Rocha, Myriam Rubio, Isaac Sanjuan, Marta Sesé, Albert Tarrats, Ivonne Villamil and Annette Wolfsberger.